ArkBird
09-04 05:09 PM
You are 100% right but no one thought their Labor/GC pain will last THIS long. The most unfortunate/unlucky part in this whole journey was 245(i) amnesty in 2001. This is a tsunami which choked the labor pipe (Remember the good old days of Backlog Reduction Center and quest for that elusive screen shot from the BRC for case? :) ) & imbalanced the demand/supply equilibrium for EB3. This is the reason the variable of priority date became constant and stuck to 2001..
I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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I think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to USA in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the EB2 route and are happy and some in EB3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- They applied for GC as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to Greencard as soon as they started a job in USA are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career I have seen people saying that GC is not important to them etc but when their H1B is about to expire they panic and get desperate for Green Card.
- Before pre-PERM era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like CA, NY etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
- Any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for GC as soon as the employee joined it. And I have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
- People who took advantage of the Labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of EB2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- Smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth EB2 job requirements, so that they can file in EB2. Such folks with 2007 PD are happy today and people with 2003 PDs in EB3 will have to wait for a long time.
- If you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
- Many folks have said that they thought they were in EB2. But found they are in EB3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. IV forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file I485 in July 2007 due to IV effort. Imagine a 2004 EB3 India person without EAD today? How will he survive a job loss on H1B in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
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reddysn
06-05 11:14 AM
Wendy welcome to IV and thanks for participating in the discussion.
Can you please take some time to send web faxes(faxid- 20) to all the state senetors using the link on the home page , if you have not already done so. and also call them if time permits.
Coming to ur note , I guess , people who apply from F1 to I-485 you are referring are not the primary green card applicants. They are dependents on primary applicatns. If not, can you tell me what they are studying and how they can apply green card from F1? I am not aware of this route.
Numerous students on F1 visa applied 485 and got their GC these years.
Can you please take some time to send web faxes(faxid- 20) to all the state senetors using the link on the home page , if you have not already done so. and also call them if time permits.
Coming to ur note , I guess , people who apply from F1 to I-485 you are referring are not the primary green card applicants. They are dependents on primary applicatns. If not, can you tell me what they are studying and how they can apply green card from F1? I am not aware of this route.
Numerous students on F1 visa applied 485 and got their GC these years.
a_yaja
07-21 09:06 AM
SPONSOR: Senate Amendment 2339 Sen Cornyn, John [TX],
COSPONSORS(6):
Sen Enzi, Michael B. [WY]
Sen Gregg, Judd [NH]
Sen Smith, Gordon H. [OR]
Sen Sununu, John E. [NH]
Sen Coleman, Norm [MN]
Sen Voinovich, George V. [OH]
Enzi - Yea
Gregg - Yea
Smith - Yea
Sununu - Yea
Coleman - Yea
Voinovich - Nay
Everyone who cosponsored the amendment voted for the amendment except for Voinovich. Wonder why he cosponsored the amendment if he did not vote for it.
COSPONSORS(6):
Sen Enzi, Michael B. [WY]
Sen Gregg, Judd [NH]
Sen Smith, Gordon H. [OR]
Sen Sununu, John E. [NH]
Sen Coleman, Norm [MN]
Sen Voinovich, George V. [OH]
Enzi - Yea
Gregg - Yea
Smith - Yea
Sununu - Yea
Coleman - Yea
Voinovich - Nay
Everyone who cosponsored the amendment voted for the amendment except for Voinovich. Wonder why he cosponsored the amendment if he did not vote for it.
sam2006
09-12 11:12 PM
Done
Changed the Equation
Changed the Equation
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drona
07-22 03:12 PM
Hi Pappu,
I have created a yahoo group for the Southern CA chapter. Members are joining in.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SC_Immigration_Voice/
Thanks.
I have created a yahoo group for the Southern CA chapter. Members are joining in.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SC_Immigration_Voice/
Thanks.
speddi
07-06 09:36 AM
http://avatarsofslavery.googlepages.com/home
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Libra
09-10 01:36 PM
Thank you guys, you guys are the best. It would be really great if you all can make it to rally. who can't make it, thanks for contribution.
ramus
09-09 10:14 AM
GCOP
Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1
$100 Contribution
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I just made $100 contribution for Rally on Sept.18
Google Order# 664888870694671
PD:Oct.03, EB-3
I 140 Approved
I-485 filed on July 25,07
Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1
$100 Contribution
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I just made $100 contribution for Rally on Sept.18
Google Order# 664888870694671
PD:Oct.03, EB-3
I 140 Approved
I-485 filed on July 25,07
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Desichakit
07-11 09:51 AM
This appears to be half the battle won for EB2 as it has to translated into actual approval. Also we must be mindfull of EB3 retrogression and must not lose sight of it in this Euphoria.
EB2-I-Jan08
EB2-I-Jan08
julsun
01-03 12:01 PM
I checked with NSC today regarding our AP filed on Oct 8th, 2007. I was told that they are processing September 16th right now and it would be few weeks before they get to mine.
Thanks
Thanks
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chakdepatte
02-24 08:50 AM
Something that you dont have?
would you die if you don't get it. live a life man.
would you die if you don't get it. live a life man.
hazishak
07-18 06:25 PM
Since on 2nd July they said they will reject the AOS application, what if they would have done some rejection during that time, and by the time July filers get their application back, it is after 17th of August. In that circumstance, can you send the AOS application back arguing USCIS's mistake and ask them to take it back after 08/17 and would they take it back politely or reject it again.
You just simply resend it.
You just simply resend it.
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rajenk
12-14 02:35 PM
I need something which removes employer dependency with approved i140 until u file 485.
I hate working at the same employer just becasue my PD is not current. And by the time my PD becomes current, may be employer is not doing good, I am not happy at the job.... and I have to start from PERM again at new employer. Also if employer revokes i140, I loose the PD as well!!
Hi supers789,
You don't loose your PD if I-140 is revoked. All you need is an approved I-140. USCIS does honor the PD from a revoked I-140. That is what I have heard from various immigration attorneys. The PD is yours to keep. I think USCIS is generous enough to not push a person out of the queue once you have started your GC and progressed until I-140 approval.
I agree, I am definitely breathing from the July'07 filing. Otherwise it would be worse for me and my family to be working for my first GC employer. I am on your side for that.
A general advice don't stress yourself too much about it. It is definitely not good for your health. I use to check the status on my case every single day during my I-140 stage and got stressed out a lot and eventually earned some health problems from which I am slowly recovering. This is just a friendly advice.
I hate working at the same employer just becasue my PD is not current. And by the time my PD becomes current, may be employer is not doing good, I am not happy at the job.... and I have to start from PERM again at new employer. Also if employer revokes i140, I loose the PD as well!!
Hi supers789,
You don't loose your PD if I-140 is revoked. All you need is an approved I-140. USCIS does honor the PD from a revoked I-140. That is what I have heard from various immigration attorneys. The PD is yours to keep. I think USCIS is generous enough to not push a person out of the queue once you have started your GC and progressed until I-140 approval.
I agree, I am definitely breathing from the July'07 filing. Otherwise it would be worse for me and my family to be working for my first GC employer. I am on your side for that.
A general advice don't stress yourself too much about it. It is definitely not good for your health. I use to check the status on my case every single day during my I-140 stage and got stressed out a lot and eventually earned some health problems from which I am slowly recovering. This is just a friendly advice.
paskal
12-18 05:43 PM
what will be will be
let's not lack in our efforts though
there are two campaigns underway:
add a member and
contribute at least $20
by Dec 31
funds and members...are the key to our success
please join us in both campaigns
Thanks!
let's not lack in our efforts though
there are two campaigns underway:
add a member and
contribute at least $20
by Dec 31
funds and members...are the key to our success
please join us in both campaigns
Thanks!
more...
ramus
07-06 05:24 PM
07/06/2007: Temporary Restrain Order of July Visa Bulletin Lawsuit Filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois as Separate from AILF Class Action
On July 6, 2007, the attorneys of Azulay, Horn & Seiden lawfirm filed this lawsuit individually in Illinois.
From OH
On July 6, 2007, the attorneys of Azulay, Horn & Seiden lawfirm filed this lawsuit individually in Illinois.
From OH
bpratap
05-15 05:08 PM
I am working with a bank for my new Mortgage. The bank is asking for 3 year continuous VISA (forward) as a requirement.
My situation is H1 + 485 (I-140 Approved)
my current H1 will expire in December 2009, I cannot apply for extension until June 09 (180 days )
but Bank guys are asking for 3 yr VISA, they are not even looking on my H1b Approval letter as there is a line mentioned in there as "This form is not a visa nor may it be used in place of a VISA"
Anybody have similar experience ? and any suggestions of how to approach / explain this to bank guys ?
Appreciate ur views n comments
My situation is H1 + 485 (I-140 Approved)
my current H1 will expire in December 2009, I cannot apply for extension until June 09 (180 days )
but Bank guys are asking for 3 yr VISA, they are not even looking on my H1b Approval letter as there is a line mentioned in there as "This form is not a visa nor may it be used in place of a VISA"
Anybody have similar experience ? and any suggestions of how to approach / explain this to bank guys ?
Appreciate ur views n comments
more...
kate123
08-23 08:21 AM
Does it mean the eligibility criteria/job requirement for EB2 is changed from Bachelors + 5 years of experience to Bachelors + 10 years of experience?
This line is not good:
(ii) Evidence in the form of letter(s) from current or former employer(s) showing that the alien has at least ten years of full-time experience in the occupation for which he or she is being sought;
This line is not good:
(ii) Evidence in the form of letter(s) from current or former employer(s) showing that the alien has at least ten years of full-time experience in the occupation for which he or she is being sought;
ps57002
09-02 12:21 PM
Thanks all.
I'm in my mid thirties now. I came as a teen, fifteen.
So I wonder....should the dream act come through....could it work in my favor too lol? I came through no choice of my own (though legally) with my parents....
And do i get a GC for beating everyone on here :)
j/k.
I'm in my mid thirties now. I came as a teen, fifteen.
So I wonder....should the dream act come through....could it work in my favor too lol? I came through no choice of my own (though legally) with my parents....
And do i get a GC for beating everyone on here :)
j/k.
ameryki
01-03 08:00 PM
hi applied for 485/ ead and ap on Aug 1st to NSC. I received Ead cards and finger printing complete. But no RN's for any of the 3 applications and no AP yet :-(. Can't even find out AP file number since lawyer used money order to file.
mgmanoj
09-01 09:20 AM
Landed in January' 2000
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
1st Labor Filed in Sept'2001
State approved and project over so had to to move over
2nd Labor filed in Jan'2003 with Company B
Attorney screwed it
3rd Labor filed in Jun'2007
Missed July 2007 fiasco
New date EB3 - Jun'2007
texanguy
09-10 11:23 AM
:mad:why did i get a red dot for this post? now i cant access the chat...sucks
you still have till end of this month...
you still have till end of this month...
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